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Post by dunkard on Dec 14, 2014 13:54:36 GMT -5
Does anyone have the coords for the three shelters at Tea Creek. I know of the rough locations but would like to have specific coordinates. Mainly interested in the lower shelter near the junction of tea creek, right fork, and north face trails. Is this shelter on the tea creek trail or one of the other trails. Also how far from the creek is the shelter and is it on the creek side of the trail. Also the old quads have a shelter marked on the Gauley Mnt Trail. Newer versions of the quad have this shelter missing I'm assuming it was removed. Any one know about that?
Thanks
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Post by arfcomhkr on Dec 14, 2014 16:11:46 GMT -5
Does anyone have the coords for the three shelters at Tea Creek. I know of the rough locations but would like to have specific coordinates. Mainly interested in the lower shelter near the junction of tea creek, right fork, and north face trails. Is this shelter on the tea creek trail or one of the other trails. Also how far from the creek is the shelter and is it on the creek side of the trail. Also the old quads have a shelter marked on the Gauley Mnt Trail. Newer versions of the quad have this shelter missing I'm assuming it was removed. Any one know about that? Thanks I'll have to look on my gps. Going upstream, the first shelter is on the right side of tea creek where the right fork comes in. You cant miss it. The other shelter is way up towards Gauley mtn trail and up a hill, away from tea creek. I don't recall a shelter on Gauley mountain trail, at least on the part I hiked. |
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Post by Admin on Dec 14, 2014 16:23:55 GMT -5
There is no Gauley Mt Shelter. There is a shelter on Bear Pen Trail but it is dry.
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Post by arfcomhkr on Dec 14, 2014 16:30:32 GMT -5
I think this is it. N 38 22.051 W 080 12.081
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Post by dunkard on Dec 14, 2014 18:39:19 GMT -5
I think this is it. N 38 22.051 W 080 12.081 Thank you very much Now I just have to wait for Santa to bring me some goodies and a stretch of good weather and maybe I'll check it out. Highland scenic highway keeps me a lil worried that I'd get snowed in. Time will tell |
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Post by arfcomhkr on Dec 14, 2014 18:45:47 GMT -5
Shelter.  This is the right fork where it dumps into tea creek. You have to cross this unless you're going out right fork. It looked like a good place to slip over the edge when we were there last time, so we bushwacked to another place to cross.  |
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Post by jnk556 on Dec 14, 2014 18:52:13 GMT -5
Shelter. This is the right fork where it dumps into tea creek. You have to cross this unless you're going out right fork. It looked like a good place to slip over the edge when we were there last time, so we bushwacked to another place to cross. Who's that ugly fella in the picture  You know i think it's been like 3-4yrs since that pic was taken too  Yeah the shelter at the right fork, is right on the creek, you can sleep there and listen to the water all night. Really a nice spot on the trail. It sits right where the tea creek and right fork split, right fork goes up the RR grade right behind the shelter, and the tea creek trail runs right in front of the shelter. |
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Post by arfcomhkr on Dec 14, 2014 18:54:04 GMT -5
I think this is it. N 38 22.051 W 080 12.081 Thank you very much Now I just have to wait for Santa to bring me some goodies and a stretch of good weather and maybe I'll check it out. Highland scenic highway keeps me a lil worried that I'd get snowed in. Time will tell Pretty sure the gate at tea creek campground (and the trail head parking) will be locked after hunting season. You'll have to park along Williams river road if you want to hike up from there. Or, you can park up on the mountain and do the right fork- Gauley mtn. loop. |
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Post by vdeal on Dec 14, 2014 21:02:09 GMT -5
Yeah, the shelter on Tea Creek is hard to miss and it is a nice spot to hear the water. Don't remember the crossing being bad but it's been many years since I've been there. There also was a shelter near the top of Tea Creek Trail near FR24 which I stayed at also. That would make 3 shelters with the Bear Pen one.
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Post by arfcomhkr on Dec 15, 2014 5:34:18 GMT -5
BTW, if you're thinking of picking up the right fork trail by the shelter, it's a little confusing if you've never been there before. You'll have to pick up the north face trail above the shelter and hike it back in the direction of the campground for a few hundred yards or more. Keep your eyes open and the right fork trail will meet it from above and the left. Turn left and it will eventually regain the creek. I honestly don't remember a sign or cairn being there at the junction.
If you're going to continue up tea creek, be prepared for a bunch of crossings. If the water is up, you might have to look around for better places to cross if you want to keep your feet dry. It's doable but you might have to bushwack away from the trail a bit here and there.
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Post by Admin on Dec 15, 2014 15:46:15 GMT -5
If you're planning to do the Tea Creek/Tea Creek Mt Loop on my site you can park at the Tea Creek Mountain trailhead on 150 across from an overlook. It should be listed in the GPX file.
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Post by jnk556 on Dec 15, 2014 17:51:39 GMT -5
As Arf said, abaove the shelter on tea creek, there is around 20 crossings of the creek. Now most are just rock hops, but there is a couple spots you might get your feet wet on.
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Post by dunkard on Dec 15, 2014 19:17:03 GMT -5
Thanks for all the info. It's greatly appreciated. I was planning on starting out along Gauley mnt tr and looping through right fork or bear pen. It's all up in the air.
There are a couple of benchmarks id like to find one on sharp knob and the other is near the northern end of the tea creek trail off of FR 24 and will involve a bushwhack.
So I might end up coming in from the north side. if FR24 doesn't get snowed in?
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Post by jnk556 on Dec 15, 2014 19:39:35 GMT -5
Thanks for all the info. It's greatly appreciated. I was planning on starting out along Gauley mnt tr and looping through right fork or bear pen. It's all up in the air. There are a couple of benchmarks id like to find one on sharp knob and the other is near the northern end of the tea creek trail off of FR 24 and will involve a bushwhack. So I might end up coming in from the north side. if FR24 doesn't get snowed in? FR24, is that road up through the strip mines. That road runs right up on top of the mountain, and the road up to there, off of 219 is steep. So you can bet it snows in, and stays that way till about April. Sharp Knob is a cool little place, but there is no view, and all that is up there are a couple of comm towers, and pine trees. I've done a bit of exploring up there, and for the most part FR24 is in decent shape. I've not been past Sharp Knob's cut off to the north, so I don't know about that area, it may go through to somewhere to the north? Go over to the USGS site, and download the Sharp Knob Wv quad, it is a must if you go traveling up there, some of those roads get confusing. It is one area I want to explore more, just haven't had the chance, as it a bit further than I normally venture for a day drive, although it's local to me compared to alot of you guys. |
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Post by dunkard on Dec 15, 2014 19:58:04 GMT -5
I figured there would be no view from Sharp knob, but that's not why I'm heading there to begin with. There's a lil brass disc up there thats caught my fancy.  Sounds like I might be waiting on spring to find that one. |
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Post by arfcomhkr on Dec 15, 2014 20:36:17 GMT -5
There's one of those out on the canyon rim in Roaring Plains, just inside the woods from the pipeline.
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Post by Admin on Dec 16, 2014 8:25:01 GMT -5
They are all over. Some are boundary markers. Others mark high points in elevation. There are 2 (one placed erroneously) to mark yje peak of Mt. Rogers in Southern VA.
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Post by vdeal on Dec 16, 2014 13:36:21 GMT -5
Here is some info on benchmarks and triangulation stations. I've seen lots of them.
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Post by dunkard on Dec 16, 2014 14:43:57 GMT -5
The one on the canyon rim is a usfs boundary marker not a usgs benchmark. There are a couple usgs benchmarks in the roaring plains area. One is on Mount Porte Crayon. And a couple more in dolly sods. There common along roads and railroads but I mainly hunt for the ones on peaks.
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Post by dunkard on Dec 16, 2014 15:49:38 GMT -5
For those who are interested there are 8562 archived usgs benchmarks in WV. Some of these are rivets/pins and others are observation posts such as church spires or fire towers. Few of them are peak Benchmarks. A lot of them have been destroyed or covered up. Since 2000 around 2500 have been officialy recovered. For comparison Virginia has over 20,000 benchmarks. This information is taken from the NGS webpage geodesy.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/datasheet.prl |
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You know i think it's been like 3-4yrs since that pic was taken too 
