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Post by amyliz on Jan 28, 2017 9:07:19 GMT -5
Hi.
My husband and I would like to take our kids on their first backpacking trip over their spring break this year which is mid-April. We would like to do 3 days/2 nights with low mileage as they are young - 5, 7, and 9. I initially thought a loop at Mount Rodgers/Grayson Highlands would work but now I worry that it might be too cold in April.
Any suggestions are appreciated!
Thanks, Amy
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vdeal
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Post by vdeal on Jan 28, 2017 9:14:34 GMT -5
April can be dicey in the mountains. I've seen all kinds of weather. Even if you get a warm day the chances of 3 good days in a row are slim. I would wait till May and even then the highest elevations can get cold. If you're open to going in WV then I often tell people that the Otter Creek Wilderness is a good starter option. Go in via the Dry Fork swinging bridge and stay along the creek the entire time - just do an in and out. It's somewhat lower elevation so cold weather isn't as big of an issue and kids always like the water. There are rapids and a nice waterfall. I'm sure others on here could give you some better options if you want to be in VA.
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Post by hikeer on Jan 28, 2017 10:50:44 GMT -5
Seneca Creek is a great option for kids, easy walking along the creek, waterfalls, etc.. However, as vdeal mentions, the weather is just flat out too unpredictable that time of year to be a real viable option. Plus, the ages of your children dictate that they will end up in the creek and wet at some point, so probably best to save Seneca Creek for a summer trip! I would suggest looking at some options along the AT in the central to southern Virginia areas, perhaps around McAfee Knob? Just be prepared to be flexible with your plans in case the weather doesn't cooperate.
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Post by arfcomhkr on Jan 29, 2017 8:07:55 GMT -5
Maybe hike or bike trip along the Cranberry River. There's quite a few shelters and that would save you from packing a big tent. Downside is that you'll have to compete with Trout fishermen for them that time of year. It would be easy walking for the kids and you could always do day hikes up the other trails.
April is unpredictable. But to be honest so is summer in the WV mountains with the localized pop up thunderstorms.
Personally, I think it wold be a great trip on bikes with kids. You could put a bike trailer on your bike for the gear.
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Post by jmitch on Jan 29, 2017 21:27:28 GMT -5
In PA, consider the Old Loggers Path, Loyalsock Link loop, part of the Allegheny Front Trail, or the Michaux State Forest.
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Post by ki0eh on Jan 30, 2017 10:36:46 GMT -5
Old Loggers Path north loop would be good, lots of gravel roads to reach it. East end of the Loyalsock even if you don't do the whole Loyalsock-Link Loop has less gravel eating. A number of the Michaux loops on the parent site could be concatenated, as mentioned. All of these are well over half an hour's drive to a reasonable size town afterwards. One other possibility is a variant of www.midatlantichikes.com/bearmeadows-indianwells.htm (supplemental maps www.hike-mst.org/images/pdfs/SectionUpdates/Maps/2016-06-14ufisec8.pdf and www.dcnr.state.pa.us/cs/groups/public/documents/document/dcnr_20027824.pdf or the excellent Purple Lizard map of Rothrock State Forest) I'd start from the large Forestry parking lot in Galbraith Gap - very little gravel driving off 322 compared to other options. I'd also climb Spruce Gap trail - more interesting than Old Laurel Run Trail for kids. Turn left to drop your pack and water in the 1st campsite past the Tom Thwaites Monument, then run around the top to the (closed) fire tower and cabin, the little vista nearby, trail register, etc. Next day head out Mid State Trail compass-southwest, trail-north past Indian Wells, Keith Spring area. If you're really dragging, find campsites around Keith Spring. Or if much more ambitions, keep going "north" on Mid State Trail (compass-southeast) to Detweiler Junction with Standing Stone Trail, turn right briefly to a wonderful charcoal flat rhododendron-surrounded campsite just outside the Natural Area boundary. Hit Bear Meadows on way back to car - can use the bits of the gravel Bear Meadows Road to connect back to the Jean Aron and Lonberger paths back to the car. Unless you camped around Keith Spring and shortcutting out, not much reason imo to go around the "back" side of Bear Meadows. After the hike you are right next to State College - cheap college pizza for your crew (Home D, Hi-Way, etc.), the famous Penn State Berkey Creamery for ice cream, Growing Tree Toys downtown 1/2 block from Appalachian Outdoors outfitter in case toys are needed for little or big ones.
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Post by amyliz on Jan 30, 2017 15:26:36 GMT -5
Thanks for all the great suggestions! We are hoping to go through Southwestern VA on this trip and then down into NC onto the Blue Ridge Parkway so we are looking for backpacking options down that way. I apologize, I should have made that clear in my post.
We are definitely planning to go to WVa and PA this spring and summer when it warms up a bit and these suggestions help a lot. It may be smart to put off our first backpacking until later in the year when we have a better chance of good weather.
Thanks!
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Post by amyliz on Jan 30, 2017 17:03:34 GMT -5
After doing a little more research...
Interestingly, the Blue Ridge Parkway campgrounds for the most part don't open until May while most of the Monongahela NF campgrounds are open by mid-April. So... I think we will visit Dolly Sods and Seneca Rocks which we have been meaning to do and try out the low elevation WV backpacking ideas that you gave me if the weather is warm enough.
Thanks!
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Post by arfcomhkr on Jan 30, 2017 20:08:10 GMT -5
After doing a little more research... Interestingly, the Blue Ridge Parkway campgrounds for the most part don't open until May while most of the Monongahela NF campgrounds are open by mid-April. So... I think we will visit Dolly Sods and Seneca Rocks which we have been meaning to do and try out the low elevation WV backpacking ideas that you gave me if the weather is warm enough. Thanks! You can camp at Seneca Shadows Campground, almost across the road from Seneca Rocks. Or you can camp at Big Bend back in Smoke Hole. The Sods can get snow up there in April, so be prepared. That place has it's own special weather that pays no mind to forecasts.
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Post by christopherrobin on Jan 31, 2017 6:50:17 GMT -5
Just because its south doesn't make it better for early backpacking, if that is what you are thinking. Its more about altitude. I would suggest Mike's Trout Run Circumnavigation. Nice moderate hike with plenty of views to keep the kids happy and you are not far from civilization if something happens.
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Post by arfcomhkr on Jan 31, 2017 8:19:02 GMT -5
BTW, you may not be able to drive up into the higher elevations of the Sods in April as the FS has tightened up on the winter road closures up there. Call before you try to drive up there or stop at the ranger station between Petersburg and Cabins. link
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