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Post by dunkard on Aug 23, 2015 12:23:24 GMT -5
I recently hiked to two old Plane Crash sites I know there are others out there does anybody have any info on the other sites? The first one a visited was a Piper which crashed in 1973. You can reach it off the Lumberjack trail in the Spruce Knob Recreation Area. The other site was in the Laurel Fork wilderness it was a USAF C-45 which crashed in 1960. I have also read about a plane that went down in the Cranberry area and have coordinates for that site but have yet to make it down there. If you know of any others post them here.
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Post by Admin on Aug 23, 2015 13:16:17 GMT -5
Isn't there one close to Huckleberry Tr near the top of Spruce Knob?
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Post by dunkard on Aug 23, 2015 13:54:39 GMT -5
I believe that's the Piper off the lumberjack trail in the above photos. It's maybe a mile from the huckleberry trail unless there's two up there.
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Post by icebucketjohn on Aug 24, 2015 7:14:30 GMT -5
Kinda creepy.
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Post by arfcomhkr on Aug 24, 2015 10:14:22 GMT -5
The pics from the one in Laurel Fork were taken by jnk556. I remember he put up the little story of the plane on the tree. Pretty sure that's his trek pole and water bottle in the pic.
There's also a marker on a boulder out on the Canaan Loop road marking the spot of another crash. I don't remember the details.
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Post by dunkard on Aug 24, 2015 11:28:16 GMT -5
The pics from the one in Laurel Fork were taken by jnk556. I remember he put up the little story of the plane on the tree. Pretty sure that's his trek pole and water bottle in the pic. There's also a marker on a boulder out on the Canaan Loop road marking the spot of another crash. I don't remember the details. Nope all pics were taken by me on Saturday. Hiking pole and water bottle are mine also.
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Post by dunkard on Aug 24, 2015 11:31:16 GMT -5
The pics from the one in Laurel Fork were taken by jnk556. I remember he put up the little story of the plane on the tree. Pretty sure that's his trek pole and water bottle in the pic. There's also a marker on a boulder out on the Canaan Loop road marking the spot of another crash. I don't remember the details. You can see the story on the tree in the background of one of the photos. heres a close up of the story
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Post by arfcomhkr on Aug 24, 2015 11:32:41 GMT -5
The pics from the one in Laurel Fork were taken by jnk556. I remember he put up the little story of the plane on the tree. Pretty sure that's his trek pole and water bottle in the pic. There's also a marker on a boulder out on the Canaan Loop road marking the spot of another crash. I don't remember the details. Nope all pics were taken by me on Saturday. Hiking pole and water bottle are mine also. OK, well looks like the same pic. . I'm surprised that paper is still on the tree, unless someone replaced it. It's been up there a few years.
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Post by jnk556 on Aug 30, 2015 12:22:38 GMT -5
I cant believe my sign is still there!!! It's been there for at least 3 years I think! It's my sign arf, it had a wrinkle in the laminate on the paper. Sign was posted in the spring of 2013 I think....
I'll have to type up another one, and replace it, as I lost that copy on my old computer. That story on the Laurel Fork crash is all I turned up, and it was a pain to find that info.
BTW, I'm glad my sign has helped a few people in learning about that site, maybe more folks will respect it more if they know some about it.
You have any directions to the one on Spruce Knob?? I have heard about it, but never knew where to look. Also, if you don't mind sharing the info on the Cranberry crash with me, I may try to explore it out. You can e-mail me or message me if you would like so the whole world doesn't know the location...
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Post by Admin on Aug 30, 2015 12:59:51 GMT -5
I cant believe my sign is still there!!! It's been there for at least 3 years I think! It's my sign arf, it had a wrinkle in the laminate on the paper. Sign was posted in the spring of 2013 I think.... I'll have to type up another one, and replace it, as I lost that copy on my old computer. That story on the Laurel Fork crash is all I turned up, and it was a pain to find that info. BTW, I'm glad my sign has helped a few people in learning about that site, maybe more folks will respect it more if they know some about it. You have any directions to the one on Spruce Knob?? I have heard about it, but never knew where to look. Also, if you don't mind sharing the info on the Cranberry crash with me, I may try to explore it out. You can e-mail me or message me if you would like so the whole world doesn't know the location... In the 8th edition of the MNF hiking guide, page 148, near the bottom it states " At 1.9 miles (from the beginning of the Huckleberry Trail on Spruce Knob) is the remnants of a small plane crash....". I've only been there once and never saw it. In another 0.2 miles is a spruce grove according to the guide.
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Post by arfcomhkr on Aug 30, 2015 13:15:14 GMT -5
I took a quick look for the one on Huckleberry one of the times I was hiking across it. Didn't see it.
I'm not sure if there's anything left of the one on Canaan besides the marker on the boulder. It's on the left somewhere after the road crosses Red Run.
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Post by jnk556 on Aug 30, 2015 13:32:26 GMT -5
I cant believe my sign is still there!!! It's been there for at least 3 years I think! It's my sign arf, it had a wrinkle in the laminate on the paper. Sign was posted in the spring of 2013 I think.... I'll have to type up another one, and replace it, as I lost that copy on my old computer. That story on the Laurel Fork crash is all I turned up, and it was a pain to find that info. BTW, I'm glad my sign has helped a few people in learning about that site, maybe more folks will respect it more if they know some about it. You have any directions to the one on Spruce Knob?? I have heard about it, but never knew where to look. Also, if you don't mind sharing the info on the Cranberry crash with me, I may try to explore it out. You can e-mail me or message me if you would like so the whole world doesn't know the location... In the 8th edition of the MNF hiking guide, page 148, near the bottom it states " At 1.9 miles (from the beginning of the Huckleberry Trail on Spruce Knob) is the remnants of a small plane crash....". I've only been there once and never saw it. In another 0.2 miles is a spruce grove according to the guide. Yep, I have read your description of that, and never did see it, then again, it is thick as heck up in that area. I was hoping that since dunkard had seen it he could give us GPS location.
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Post by 1camper on Aug 30, 2015 15:52:00 GMT -5
I hiked to this one on Sharp top mt by Peaks of Otter. www.goodrow.us/B25.html Some remnants of those big radial engines.
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Post by dunkard on Sept 1, 2015 12:26:18 GMT -5
Jnk556 The Piper up on spruce is pretty easy to find now. Its along the Lumberjack and has a well worn path leading down to it. Unfortunately some folks have disturbed the wreckage and carried a part of the window and some exhaust tubing up to the trail and hung them in trees as a marker. Gps coords 38° 45.845'N 79° 29.911'W I need to do some hunting on my home computer for the Cranberry wreck but I believe this is the link for it. But I might have some more info on it I'll get back to you if I can find anything else The wreckage is at 38° 20.090'N 80° 16.830'W Link to info www.asias.faa.gov/pls/apex/f?p=100:17:0::NO::AP_BRIEF_RPT_VAR:NYC96FA192If you turn up anything else please let me know.
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Post by jnk556 on Sept 1, 2015 17:03:09 GMT -5
Thank you very much, next time I get to the area I will look them up, the one off Lumber jack would make a nice side trip, if i decide to go back and look for the lost meadow someday.
That is a very detailed report of the Cranberry crash. Looks like the pilot was killed. Says the wreckage wasn't found till 2001, but it says no remains found in wreckage?? That and it talks about passenger, but I thought the pilot was alone?? That FAA report makes me go cross eyed reading it! Looks like the crash site is located off of the district line trail, and I think that's a pretty rough trail anyways, not sure how thick the woods are up in there either to want to venture off trail. I'd say the remains are there, ain't no one hauling off stuff from up there.
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Post by jnk556 on Sept 1, 2015 19:38:12 GMT -5
Ok, read the NTSB report till I'm cross eyed, think I got it strait. I found more back info on the crash, in articles relating to the missing hiker a few years back. Anyways the plane indeed wasn't found till 2001, and the pilot was never found. Debris scattered over few hundred yards. It doesn't look too far off of district line trail, but who knows up in there.
Arfcomhkr and I may try to make this in a day hike in spring when there is no leaves, makes debris easier to find. The more I read about cranberry, the spookier the place gets....
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Post by vdeal on Sept 1, 2015 21:04:48 GMT -5
I don't know, that avatar of your's is pretty spooky too :-)
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Post by dunkard on Sept 1, 2015 21:11:45 GMT -5
This has nothing to do with the crash but is an interesting read about the unforgiving "spookiness" of cranberry www.iplayoutside.com/Events/?eid=Articles/1998/12/00-winter_hike97.htmlWith a stream named "Hells for Certain Branch" in the vicinity it sounds like the perfect place for a full moon winter solo hike following the footsteps of a lost hiker searching for a plane wreck with an unrecovered body bonus points awarded for a Friday the thirteenth trip. I'll be eagerly waiting on your trip report for this one jnk556.
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Post by arfcomhkr on Sept 2, 2015 4:57:53 GMT -5
This has nothing to do with the crash but is an interesting read about the unforgiving "spookiness" of cranberry www.iplayoutside.com/Events/?eid=Articles/1998/12/00-winter_hike97.htmlWith a stream named "Hells for Certain Branch" in the vicinity it sounds like the perfect place for a full moon winter solo hike following the footsteps of a lost hiker searching for a plane wreck with an unrecovered body bonus points awarded for a Friday the thirteenth trip. I'll be eagerly waiting on your trip report for this one jnk556. I read that winter hike story many years ago. I don't find Cranberry spooky at all. I guess it's because when I started backpacking I did all solo trips to off the beaten path places. I feel right at home there. I really can't stand places like the Sods with the crowds.
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Post by jnk556 on Sept 2, 2015 20:09:23 GMT -5
The place has a difference to it that no other wilderness area has, I don't know if it's the rough terrain, the isolation, history or what, but I like the place too. I enjoy never seeing another soul when out on a trip. I don't mind a day hike by myself, but after a while it really is nice to have someone just to BS with.
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